Firstly thank you so much I came across this site only the other day and over the moon with the winderful music on it, particularly Our Lawn, which is fantasitic, every last word!
I came across the above track on face book youtube once as an outtake from 11 Tracks and wondered if you were consdering producing this for the site, as the quality of the material here is so good.
Just a thought and thanks again Mark R
Good question. The answer is yes. Both d-Mod and I agree that Lies I Can Believe—which is referred to both in Walter's notes and in the copyright information as filed as "Love in the 4th"—is one of the better outtakes from the 11 Tracks of Whack era. We will certainly be sharing it at some point in the future. It is a song that we have to be careful with, though, because it was recorded multiple times in wildly different settings, and merits some serious understanding on our parts before we set it free to flap its wings and potentially fly. But rest assured that the reason you haven't seen it here yet is precisely because we agree with you that it should be out there, and we want to make sure we've done our due diligence in service of the song so that you have tohe proper context—and best chance—to enjoy it further once you have access to it.
thank you very much appreciated. MarkR
Absolutely!
Coming in late to say Welcome, Mark! It's great to know that there are a few people out there who might yet wander in the door. Hope you've sampled the now-mighty collection of unreleased cuts; the Downloads page is a good listing location and gives you the options of listening and/or downloading all from one place. Also in the same spot you'll get a link that brings you straight to the discussion for that cut, which we hope you do. Discuss, that is. That's our favorite part! -- to hear what folks think and what info and enthusiasms they share with one another. PS are you signed up for the WB Newsletter? We'd hate for you to miss a mailing on, oh, say, the night of April 6 ;-)
To The Good folks at Beckerdom: I've been meaning to write again for a couple of months now to also suggest/request an 'improved fidelity' version of 'Lies I Can Believe', as at my house it's yet another (nearly) lost classic of Walter's - great lyrics, great melody, with the ever-unique Becker 'tude on display across-the-proverbial-(sound)board. I was so taken wth the melody that a number of years ago I wrote a piece of my own with a similar melodic structure -- sort of akin to The Police doing 'So Lonely' in the wake of 'No Woman No Cry' -- and to this day, I still hum 'Lies I Can Believe' to myself every few weeks or so. Thanks in advance for being influenced and moved-to-action by the mere suggestion, my personal thus far unreleased homage/plagarism exercise notwithstanding.
-- Randy
That's awesome. I'd love to hear your inspired piece if you're inclined to share.
Lies I can believe is a fave of mine as well, probably the best of the 11 tracks of whack outtakes on that outtakes album.
It was definitely the one that stuck with me the longest. I think it just has something about it. Hard to define, but I feel the same way about it as I do about Book of Liars and Paging Audrey.
When I first heard it, I thought it was possibly the best song WB had written.
His work since has altered that ranking --somewhat -- but the argument could still be made; I'm ever mindful that we've only heard "lies" (Love In The 4th) in demo form, not produced and perfected like "Audrey" and others..
Make me believe the lie that allows me to maintain the fantasy that things are okay, that you love me, that rivers are capable of flowing uphill...there's a certain way of teasing that out that I feel like this song (Lies I Can Believe/Love in the 4th) just does so well, and it speaks to me at a deep and familiar place. Yeah, its one of my favorites of anything Walter ever wrote.